我們已行動了

patton · 發表於 2007-12-21 14:04:52

我們已行動了
 
術數縱橫今天有五萬八千多會員,我們的宗旨是強調發揚中國術數文化,若然術數文化被韓,日所奪去,那我們宗旨如何發揚?!難道為日韓而發揚?我開始感覺到這種滅亡的感覺!很可怕!!! 
昨天深夜我到了各術數網站觀看,亦有本網網友回饋,我們發起投票的帖子被多個網站刪了,甚至封鎖賑戶!有些網友說投票有用嗎?又有人會肯定你們嗎?有屁用嗎?更甚者說讓韓國去申請吧,反正我國不重視,形形式式...我看到真是痛心疾首!大禍臨頭啊!還懵然不知?您們的祖宗是韓日後裔嗎?這種大逆不道的說話也說得出?畜牧也會反芻!!假定你的術數文化被人搶走,你們也不出來加把聲音,人家又如何知道你們有如此強烈反應?你們還在網上日日夜夜自誇自擂說術數如何厲害,那有什麼屁用?都是人家的厲害!你們只不過是躲人屋詹下偷學人家的東西的小丑!我又想問,你們怕些什麼?在這大事大非當前,你們也不出一分力,你們還算是炎黃子孫嗎?最新消息是官方文化部已開始工作,半官方式的組織已經成立,如果不是官方批准,這半官方式的可以成立嗎?況且,作為炎黃子孫那怕官方不理,官方不是由我們民間而成嗎?你們要榮華富貴隨便你們,官方行動了,您們還不行動? 
<DIV class=msgborder>原帖由 初中生 於 2007-12-20 05:25 PM 發表。 <A href="https://forum.shusquare.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=65770&page=1#pid580073" target=_blank><IMG onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor='hand'; this.alt='Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open('https://forum.shusquare.com/images/common/back.gif');}" alt="" src="https://forum.shusquare.com/images/common/back.gif" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor='hand'; this.alt='Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out';}" border=0></A> [转贴]文化部将风水立项启动申遗 时间：2007-08-27 14:15 1 文化部、建设部介入风水文化与研究并重 最新消息，文化部有关部门将把<A href="http://info.china.alibaba.com/news/search?do=1&tracelog=info_dpv_market1&keywords=风水" target=_blank>风水</A>文化作为非物质文化遗产来立项研究，进而开展风水文化的申遗工作；这是继建设部文化中心2004年以来公开场合开展风水文化工作的又一个官方部门公开支持与研究，标志着官方对风水文化特别是对风水文化的历史作用与研究等一定程度的认可与观念上有所松动。 2007年将是风水文化申遗的高峰年，2007年4月建设部将在上海国际会议中心召开中国风水文化申报世界非物质文化遗产为主题的会议，并有很多高级别领导出席。 文化部也不甘心落后，启动资金立项开展全面的风水文化申遗与研究等全面工作，而早已虎视眈眈的日本也在大张旗鼓地加紧风水申遗工作。 文化部与建设部等官方部门的组织与协调，并从资金上给于支持，将会大力促进风水文化与科学的进程与步伐，将会更清楚的揭示风水的实质。 2 风水申遗：建设部、文化部谁将更具优势？ 建设部文化中心可以说是官方机构最早开展风水文化工作的，于2004年9月在北京人民大会堂召开了“首届中国建筑风水文化与健康地产国际论坛”，随后在2005年又在国务院招待所召开了建筑风水文化论坛，此后大大小小的活动不断。但是建设部文化中心是以会议经费来开展“风水文化”工作的，多少带有功利的成分在内，并且其工作范围主要限制在建筑风水的范围内，看似聪明实际给自己套上了紧箍咒。 文化部以新姿态出现，其开展的工作范围广，文化的范畴有多大；其次，以立项的形式开展工作，自然有经费辅助，是真的在做实事，可摈弃功利思想开展风水文化与科学的研究，以及最终风水申遗成功。 所以，如果建设部PK文化部，则文化部将占一定的优势。当然，如果再冒出个旅游局，以风水旅游文化开展风水申遗也是可能的；同样，环保局以生态风水文等开展风水申遗也未尝不可。有什么建议、评论请发到张栋杰的信箱里。 3 风水为什么要申遗？ 主要有两个迫切的原因：（1）风水是建筑遗产、古城市设计等的灵魂：中国的世界文化遗产如北京故宫、颐和园、天坛、秦始皇陵、敦煌莫高窟、曲阜乳府、孔庙、孔林、承德避暑山庄及周围寺庙、西藏拉萨市布达拉宫、武当山古建筑群、苏州古典园林、平遥县平遥古城、丽江古城、龙门石窟、明清皇家陵寝，明显陵、清东陵、清西凌、　安徽古村落，西递村、宏村等、明孝陵、殷虚等，则成功无灵魂之物，如金字塔一样成为历史不解的文物。风水就是上述遗产以及各古都、城市规划等的灵魂与理论基础，如果灵魂被抽走，那也只能是真正的文化遗产。很难相象没有灵魂的人怎么样，也就是植物人吧，离死亡还会远吗？ （2）日本风水申遗对中国风水的威胁：如果风水让日本作为其自己的文化部分而申报世界文化遗产，则是对中国历史与文化的长期夺取，这对中国文化无疑是釜底抽薪，我们将要成为配角了。</DIV> 
好了!現在尚餘在網上論壇的力量,應要與兩者結合,才可以有強大聲音,今天我們術數縱橫已行動,無論結果如何,他日我們全體成員可自豪地跟我們子孫說:我們是曾經捍衛我國文化,無怨無悔!而你們未出過力者,或投敵者,如何面對著你們子孫? 
請立即加入行動! 
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警告:我們已進入預戰階段,雖說言論自由,不同意見者可保持緘默!但不得妖言惑眾者,一律取消賑戶!

pgup · 發表於 2007-12-21 14:20:47

希望官方有所行動，大振國威。

hsktwg7 · 發表於 2007-12-21 14:39:21

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易山人 · 發表於 2007-12-21 14:58:29

支持！
术数风水界同仁，在此大是大非问题面前，如果钳口不言，等自己国家民族的文化结晶成了别国的专利，后悔就来不及了！

董鬼谷 · 發表於 2007-12-21 16:05:17

南韓是個比”美國還更美國”　的國家　自私自大．

何時再見薛仁貴征東？．．．．．．．．．．．．．

此其時也

你．我．他．．．．

讓他們”聞唐色變”

鹿人 · 發表於 2007-12-21 16:44:29

先人智慧結晶...是寶啊!

大海水 · 發表於 2007-12-21 16:50:18

术数风水本是我中华民族祖先观天察地的智慧结晶，太极图也是我们中华子民的遗产，他们韩国却拿去当国旗的图案用了，也不经我们同意也就罢了，还硬是把我们为记念先贤屈原的端午节当作自已的贵产申遗了，但联合国也不经我们中华民族同意就给通过了，这本来就不合程序，现在又要把我们祖先留给我们子孙后代的术数风水也当作自已的财产申遗，这简直是得寸进尺，贪得无厌，这回有我国的官方和术网众会员以及我民族子民们的坚决捍卫，术数风水这一文化遗产再也不能落入韩国人或是日本人之手了，术数风水这一文化遗产非我中化民族莫属！！！！！<IMG alt="" src="https://forum.shusquare.com/images/smilies/pig11.gif" border=0 smilieid="242"> <IMG alt="" src="https://forum.shusquare.com/images/smilies/pig11.gif" border=0 smilieid="242"> <IMG alt="" src="https://forum.shusquare.com/images/smilies/pig11.gif" border=0 smilieid="242">

fiend · 發表於 2007-12-21 18:38:38

捍卫继承发扬传统文化是我们的义务。

sixmet · 發表於 2007-12-22 00:34:53

韓日承蒙我國文明教化,不思感激,狼子野心,中台港澳以至各地華人,均須團結對抗！
 
炎黃子孫己非昔日東亞病夫,看來他們是找死自取其辱來的了！
 
頂力支持術數縱橫,銳山壇主及各方華英雄捍衛中華文明！
 
今有龍城飛將在,不教胡馬渡陰山！

cup · 發表於 2007-12-22 06:40:12

<img smilieid="236" src="https://forum.shusquare.com/images/smilies/pig5.gif" border="0">风水属于中国，不容他人侵犯。<img smilieid="236" src="https://forum.shusquare.com/images/smilies/pig5.gif" border="0">

玩斗宜子 · 發表於 2007-12-22 06:45:18

<IMG alt="" src="https://forum.shusquare.com/images/smilies/pig7.gif" border=0 smilieid="238"> <IMG alt="" src="https://forum.shusquare.com/images/smilies/pig7.gif" border=0 smilieid="238"> <IMG alt="" src="https://forum.shusquare.com/images/smilies/pig7.gif" border=0 smilieid="238"> 
 
 
~大快人心~~

lazyboy · 發表於 2007-12-22 10:34:39

<H3> </H3>
<H3>世界文化遺產中心</H3>
<H3>The World Heritage Centre</H3>
United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization 7, place de Fontenoy 75352 Paris 07 SP, France Tel: +33-(0)1-45 68 15 71 / +33-(0)1-45 68 18 76 Fax: +33-(0)1-45 68 55 70 E-Mail: <A href="mailto:wh-info@unesco.org">wh-info@unesco.org</A>
 
此中心的網頁主要以英文、法文運作
所以如有意見向這中心發出，不必譯成韓文
 
但淺見以為，民間意見/怒吼是極具有參考作用，但議案/意見只能由國家提出,
籲請國家正視這問題是首要的。

silversilver · 發表於 2007-12-22 14:47:19

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傳子 · 發表於 2007-12-22 21:34:34

历史已无数次向人们证实，自古以来，任何侵占中国领土，文化的行为，最终都会以失败告终，相信这次也不会例外！<IMG alt="" src="https://forum.shusquare.com/images/smilies/pig7.gif" border=0 smilieid="238">

patton · 發表於 2007-12-28 20:09:59

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<DIV>十二月二十七日我們外交大使 jackchan_b2b送了我們此篇 《Letter of Warning from 術數縱橫團隊 to the Governments of Korea and Japan》及 請全球網民來投票術數風水的文化遺產誰屬? 到unesco.org,隨之還會送到日本及韓國相關部門 </DIV>
<DIV>FYI.  </DIV>Best Regards, Jack Chan
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Jack Chan <jackchan_b2b@yahoo.com.sg> To: s.williams@unesco.org Sent: Thursday, 27 December 2007 3:52:47 Subject: Fw: Please help to consider the mentioned matter 
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<DIV>Dear Sue Williams,</DIV>
<DIV>Merry X'Mas and Happy New Year.</DIV>
<DIV>Pardon me again to bother you with the same matter for help. I sincerely hope that you can reply me on whom I can seek help or pass the petition of this matter to. Thank you again.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Below here is a translation from the forum or discuz website of <A href="mhtml:{85ED3DBF-FF9C-483A-B9C4-07FD9558C049}mid://00001480/!x-usc:http://www.chinese-fengshui.com/" target=_blank rel=nofollow>www.fengshui-chinese.com</A></DIV>
<DIV>regarding the art of Chinese FengShui. I wish that you can spare a few precious minutes for it,</DIV>
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《Letter of Warning from 術數縱橫團隊 to the Governments of Korea and Japan》 "Feng Shui" and divining art can be viewed as Chinese History. It is the habitude of all tribes of people, as well as a political, economical and social model. It is an essential constituent of our society, labeling the origin of all tribal civilization of our country. The use of divining art dated back to the No. M45 tomb in "濮陽西水坡", and was already very popular in the "War States (from the 5th - 3rd centuries B.C.) " as evidenced by the antiquities dug out from the "Mahuang Dui(馬王堆)" of the city of Changsha. This is a reality that nobody can alter. Divining art is a method of searching in ancient China . Facing the power of nature, our ancestors thought out a way to utilize this power and to control how things are to be done. This was applied to everyday life, to observe astronomical phenomena, to climatic changes, etc., etc. in order to contrive a means as to how to avoid mishaps and to welcome well being. The observations were recorded down and passed on to their descendents. After generations and generations, this model of living has become a habit, and this habit has become a social custom, emperor, nobles and general public alike. A good example is sacrifice to Heaven. Through history, everyone abide by this regulation. For example, a child born to whichever family in a certain year is given the same sign of a certain animal, like the Zodiac. Although northerners and southerners in China have different habits, the majority of their houses have the doors facing south. Kitchens of some houses are built on the south side with washrooms on the north. When children grow up to marry, the sign of the year of birth of their spouses are asked in order to arrange a good day for the wedding. Brides are dressed up in red. On the other hand, funeral dresses are in white. This all stems from the divining art and has its logic, for red represents joy and jolly; and more sunlight from the south as well. A book named "Book of Days" appeared in the above-said "War States" period which divides days into twelve categories and people chose appropriate days for ceremonies. All this is what "Feng Shui" and divining art brings to living habits and ceremonies. The divining art has been used by the Chinese Nation as a general behavior. Although the way this art is practiced in different groups of Chinese people may slightly vary, the basic principle is the same, such as, males are placed on the left and females on the right because left represents "yang(陽)" which is male; and right represents "yin(陰)" which is female. Also the allocation of dwellings follows this rule, being accepted by the people and can be seen in historical writings. This "Feng Shui" behavior has its multiple nature, being governed by different districts, mountain ranges, lakes and rivers. Again, the so-called "Gwa(卦)" of the drawing of Huang He and Luo He can be coupled to He divining art, the ten "Gan(干)" are coupled to the twelve "Zhi(支)". Yet the belief of "Feng Shui" is spread among various social tiers such as: dragon is used solely by the royal family and is forbidden among the public! Recently in Southern China, the Guangdong Group , the Fukien Group and the Jiangxi Group emerged, according to their habits and lifestyles, some of them being passed on historically, shaping the unity, social, economical, political, material, as well as behavioral standards of life amongst various tribes and groups. Divining art lays the foundation for a united social body, broadly followed by everyone. The model is continuous. From the ancient Shang Dynasty more than 5000 years ago, through the Han, Chin, Xu, Tang, Song, Yuan, Ming, Qing Dynasties to the present day, the Chinese people have seen the emergence of various characteristic "Feng Shui" culture which made different tribal living customs and continuously passed on to nowadays. This is the proof that "Feng Shui" is succeeded from traditional wisdom and affects the whole of Asia and accordingly influences their standard of living. Today, your country's government hopes to take a series of invasive steps and actions to usurp this "Feng Shui" civilization as your own. This will certainly endanger the amity between the Chinese people and your people. We sincerely hope you can be vigilant and entreat the governing body of your country to stop these shameful measures. This invasion of our civilization coupled with the saying that the Chinese lifestyle stemmed from your country is of no difference to declaring war to the Chinese people! You will never win! Please be advised that the real force does not come from governing bodies; it comes from us, the general public! Do not push your people into an abyss. Do not dream that a successful petition will bring you benefits. On the contrary, this is the beginning of your failure! If you do not put an end to your action, we will all accept your defiance, stand up and defend our civilization until the very last. We will also hope to see how you can challenge the land of "Feng Shui" origin - China ! Truly, 術數縱橫團隊銳山 On the day of Winter Solstice, Year "Ding Hai".  </DIV>Best Regards, Jack Chan
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Jack Chan <jackchan_b2b@yahoo.com.sg> To: s.williams@unesco.org Sent: Friday, 21 December 2007 5:07:06 Subject: Please help to consider the mentioned matter 
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<DIV>Dear Sue William,</DIV>
<DIV>I have nowhere to locate the voice of below mentioned issue and pardon me to look upon you for help.</DIV>
<DIV>Recently, I and a group of forum members in <A href="mhtml:{85ED3DBF-FF9C-483A-B9C4-07FD9558C049}mid://00001480/!x-usc:https://forum.shusquare.com/" target=_blank rel=nofollow>www.fengshui-chinese.com</A> found out that the Korea is applying the FengShui art and practice as their inheritance; however, as what we known for long time, this art is belonging to Chinese. Herein, I wish that you can forward this email and its content to the respective party for review and cross referancing. Thank you very much.</DIV>
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請全球網民來投票術數風水的文化遺產誰屬?
WE are pleased to welcome all internet users around the world regardless who you are and where you from, to vote for the origin of FENGSHUI art belong to? 
中國   CHINA
 
OR
 
韓國   KOREA
 
   
您們再不要坐視不理,這是廿一世紀中國人文化遺產大事,我們已失了一城,端午節已被韓國成功申請了,我們還是有血有肉的中國人,焉能給人搶走我們文化遺產?這等同侵略,請點出您們捍衛文化遺產一票!!!! 
Every one of you>>>> STAND UP>>>> not only for Chinese but also other races who may or may not face this in future. It is not a moment of “sit and wait” to see what happen next, that is a loss of Chinese Art and Inheritage and also FACTS; 
WE had lost one Chinese traditional festive,[端午節----DuanWu Jie] and also a facts to Korea , which was actually belonging to our Chinese.
Whether you are Chinese or not,
WE don’t want to lose further inheritance and facts. The act is like the robbing in daylight and distorting the facts of where they suppose to belong. WE, don’t want our next and future generations being fooled and confused by what is not real or true.
WE must stop the misleading which may affect the future, and correct those who are not familiar with our Chinese inheritance but decide what is what.
Please help us, by supporting us to vote for keeping the Chinese inheritance and facts.
 
 
註:請您們踴躍表達,我們會嘗試找一途徑,將有關資料及投票結果整篇所有人訴求,送到聯合國有關部門參考 
Note: Please join in to express your support, WE shall find a way to convey the related details and data as well as the result of voting to the United Nation(UNESCO) for cross referencing.
 
註:請各界朋友告知其他網站網民過來這裡投票,或可聯盟抗敵,讓我們集中火力打這場硬仗,捍衛我國文化遺產 
Note: Please circulate this news to other web surfers, regardless of races or beliefs, to vote here and to fight for the inheritance and facts. This is a war, a tough war, to fight for not only the inheritance but also the facts.
People, please equip yourself with the internet access and come here to strengthen our union to fight for what is not true.
WE, again, welcome every one of you, regardless of who you are and where you from, to bring us your strength to strive for TRUTH.
 
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
 
 
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Join US Immediately:<A href="mhtml:{85ED3DBF-FF9C-483A-B9C4-07FD9558C049}mid://00001480/!x-usc:https://forum.shusquare.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=65736&extra=&page=1" target=_blank rel=nofollow>https://forum.shusquare.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=65736&extra=&page=1</A>  </DIV>Best Regards, Jack Chan
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