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美网友怒斥西方企图干涉叙利亚，盛赞中俄好样的！
来源：Huffington Post（赫芬顿邮报）
日期：2012年2月5日
译者：寒姿
校对：車幹
出处：独家网（dooo.cc）
摘要：中俄对安理会叙利亚决议说"NO"，引发西方政要及媒体一片哗然，骂声、威胁声不绝于耳。然而，外国网友对西方操纵联合国、对别国实施入侵的伎俩早已司空见惯，对中俄投反对票热情赞扬，对西媒的污蔑报道一片斥责。以下是美国《赫芬顿邮报》网友对该报两篇相关报道的评论。
译文：
Russia, China Veto Of Syria UN Resolution Sparks Outrage（俄罗斯、中国对联合国叙利亚决议投否决票引发群愤）报道下的网友评论
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/05/russia-china-veto_n_1255990.html
●Rubiconski 1043 Fans
This is how the USA operates. They arm thugs inside a country. They promise them power inside that country and great wealth. They then sit back as riots and violence occur and condemn the Government for causing them . They then implore the world in joining them to bring peace and security.
This formula has been followed over and over again.
●Rubiconski（顶1043次）
这是美国一惯的伎俩。他们给这个国家的暴徒武器，许之以国家权力和巨额财富，然后便坐观这个国家骚乱暴动，并指责当地政府引发了这一切，再请求全世界加入他们以匡扶正义和平。
这个公式已经一再地被推行。
●grizzly bear55 231 Fans
Central and South America are the example on how the US right wing operates.
They are now using the same tactics to make sure not a single country in the middle east can be a threat to israel.
Unfortunately it did not work in South and central America, and it will backfire in the middle east.
●grizzly bear55（顶231次）
中南美洲是美国右翼推行的样本。
现在他们正用同样的战术以确保中东地区没有一个单独的国家能对以色列构成威胁。
不幸的是这方法在中南美洲并不奏效，在中东也不会得逞。
●RomeoMD25 285 Fans
Its hard to believe that the americans are stupid enough to constantly fall for the lies that the government spews,Do the american people honestly believe that the president of Syria would watch u.s paid criminals murder Gaddafi & say to himself,"Hey,i think ill brutalise my own people so the americans can send there paid murderers to do that to me & my family? "Funny how this is going on at the exact same time as the u.s is having problems financially,Thank God for Russia & China.
●RomeoMD25（顶285次）
很难相信美国人会蠢到一直陷在他们政府说的谎言中。难道美国人真的相信叙利亚总统会眼睁睁看着美国给杀人犯们钱，并对自己说“嘿，我认为，不幸折磨着我们的人民，所以美国佬会派这些杀人犯们过来帮助我和我的家庭”？有意思的是这还是发生在美国自己正闹着经济危机的时候。愿上帝保佑俄罗斯和中国。
●songoftherushes 323 Fans
Safe rule: If Clinton is for it, be suspicious.
●songoftherushes（顶323次）
安全法则：如果希拉里·克林顿同意这个观点，那就怀疑吧。
●Y2KCockroach 339 Fans
Well Hillary, the U.N. isn't going to rubber stamp the West's attempts at regime change in Syria, so in the alternative the U.S. and its political allies might just have to build a stack of lies upon which to justify an invasion.
Now I know that the U.S. has not ever done that before, but.......,oh wait......
●Y2KCockroach （顶339次）
希拉里，联合国并不会正式准许西方介入叙利亚政体改革，所以美国和他的政治盟友就得编造一堆谎言为他们的入侵正名了。
现在我知道了美国以前从来都没有做过这种事，但是……，哦，还是再等等吧。
●Danish5666 167 Fans
Al the Hypocrites has come together in their fake outrage.
●Danish5666（顶167次）
伪君子们都在扎堆扮愤怒。
●clearasmud 1051 Fans
I believe most Americans agree with you Bo Yu. We are tired of the wars and the conflict. But, until we can dump the Military Industrial and Financial Cartel that controls America the conflicts and wars will never end. More and more Americans are realizing that they have lost their Democracy to a Corporatocratic Oligarchy, and their freedoms to the Patriot Act and companion laws.
If the truth were to be uncovered, America is just as "Controlled" as China. Protests are put down with violent police response. People are jailed without charges. Monitoring of all phones and email 24/7. Americans can now even be assassinated by their government on a president's whim.
However, unlike the Chinese, Americans will only take so much, and the tide is rising against the Corporations and their bought politicians. We will prevail, one way or the other.
●clearasmud（顶1051次）
我相信大多数美国人都会同意你的观点，许博。我们都厌倦了战争和冲突。但是，在我们丢弃了如今控制美国的卡特尔军事工业和经济体制之前，冲突和战争不会结束。越来越多的美国人正意识到他们正失去了民主和自由，民主妥协于企业王国的寡头政治，自由让道给爱国法令和相关法律。
如果真相被揭开，美国和“被控制”的中国就没什么不同。抗议被暴力警察镇压，人们不经控告便被囚禁，所有电话和邮件被全天侯监控。美国人现在甚至可能因为总统的心血来潮被政府暗杀。
但是，和中国人不同的是，美国人只会承受更多，反对公司和他们推选政客的浪潮正一路高涨。不管如何，我们终将获胜。
●clearasmud 1051 Fans
For a little enlightenment on some real reasons things are happening the way they are.
"...it is the Tartus base that is arguably one of the most critical locations for the US military vis-a-vis developments in the middle east. And here is why Russia will block any attempt by the west to impose its own will in Syria."
●clearasmud（顶1051次）
因为一些真实原因上的启示，事情正朝着原来的轨道发展。
塔尔图斯（叙利亚）基地是美国在中东的军事发展中最重要的地盘之一，这就是俄罗斯要阻碍西方将自己的意愿强加给叙利亚的原因。
West Dares Russia to Block Syria Action at UN——Moscow Does Just That（西方害怕俄罗斯阻拦安理会通过叙利亚决议，而莫斯科恰恰这么做了）报道下的网友评论
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/evelyn-leopold/syria-united-nations-russia_b_1255055.html
●Countess 1457 Fans
The entire world was 'disgusted­' when they saw the United States invade Iraq for no good reason and proceed to kill over 100,000 people so I don't think they need a lecture from us on the morality of killing because we are still the champions by far.
●Countess（顶1457次）
当全世界看到美国毫无缘由地入侵伊拉克而且接着杀害10万多人后，他们都“被恶心到了”（译注：“被恶心到了”是苏珊·赖斯对中俄投反对票的评价）。所以我认为，他们不需要对我们洗脑，辩解杀人的正义性。因为到目前为止，我们还是“胜利者”。
●Neil Tall Eagle 81 Fans
So when are people going to realize that Russia, China, and perhaps even India... are fed up with fifty years of western hedgemony built on the US petrodollar, and are damned well strong enough now to switch to another currency, or perhaps even gold...!
●Neil Tall Eagle（顶81次）
所以人们什么时候才能明白，俄罗斯和中国，甚至可能印度，都受够了建立在美国石油美元之上长达五十年的藩篱，所以他们现在能足够坚挺地转去支持另一种货币，甚至可能是黄金！
●jabbaciv 364 Fans
This ever-incre¬asing drumbeat for war is very concerning, and should be for any student of history.
Given that our wars (and much else) is funded by borrowing from foreign countries, like China, what happens if we decide to go to war with somebody China doesn't want us to go to war with? What happens if we decide to go to war with somebody Russia doesn't want us to go to war with? Is that the reason for the new Marine base in northern Australia, and the missile defenses being moved into Europe?
●jabbaciv（顶364次）
日渐频繁的战争鼓点的确非常惹人关注，并且值得任何历史系的学生关注。
因为我们的战争（和许多其他的）费用都是从别的国家借来，比如中国。如果我们决定，和中国不想让我们一同上战场的人一起上战场，会怎么样呢？如果我们决定，和俄罗斯不想让我们一同上战场的人一起上战场，又会怎么样呢？这就是我们在澳洲北部设立新海军基地的原因么？这就是导弹防御设施被迁至欧洲的原因么？
●LMPE 1384 Fans
You can't expect every country to vote how you want.
●LMPE（顶1384次）
你不能指望每个国家都按你的意愿投票。
●OneTop 1597 Fans
U.S. Ambassador Susan Rice said she was "disgusted" by the vetoes that "prop up desperate dictators".
Setting aside the world class hypocrisy of this statement for a moment.
Syria is complex as it has more than a few ethnic and sectarian factions. The Sunnis are roughly 70% the remaining 30% are Shia, Druze, Kurds and Christains.
Assad (Shia) is in the minority, however, he has a well equipped army and the support of the 30% minority. The minority quickly sided with Assad as soon as protesters including Sunni army deserters took up arms. They genuinely fear the prospect of Sunni rule. Whether their fears are real or imagined matters not at this point as they have clearly sided with Assad, for protection if nothing else.
Syria is in the beginning of a civil war and from a practical perspective, UN sanctions regarding Assad stepping down can not be enforced. The Arab world has a lot of alliances and interests that transcend national borders which further muddies the waters. For example, the house of Saud (Sunni) fear the influence of the Shia, (Iran, Syria) after all they do not want to lose their rule by divine right to something so silly as democracy.
The protesters lost the strategic advantage of non-violence and are now faced with a bloody conflict split along age old sectarian and ethnic lines. Even with the numerical advantage they cannot hope to prevail without external help.
●OneTop（顶1597次）
美国大使苏珊·赖斯说她被那些“助长不可一世独裁者气焰”的否定票“恶心到了”。
先把这种世界伪善阶级放出的言论放在一边吧。
叙利亚很复杂，因为它拥有无数个种族宗教派系。逊尼派大概占了全国70%的人口，剩下的30%由什叶派、德鲁兹族、库尔德人和基督徒组成。
阿萨德（什叶派）是少数民族，但他拥有一支装备精良的部队和来自30%少数民族人口的支持。当包括逊尼派军队逃亡者在内的抗议者端起了武器，少数民族迅速地站在了阿萨德这边。他们十分畏惧逊尼派掌权的前景。至于他们的畏惧是真的抑或出于想象并不重要，因为他们已经清楚表明了支持阿萨德的立场，哪怕是仅仅为了寻求保护。
叙利亚正处于内战的初始阶段，从实际角度来看，联合国对于阿萨德下台的制裁并不能得到执行。阿拉伯世界有许多超越了国界的联盟和利益，它们能进一步把这潭水搅混。比如说，沙特家族（逊尼派）害怕什叶派的影响力，（伊朗、叙利亚）毕竟并不想失去自己的统治，把天赋神权生生让给像民主这样的蠢东西。
抗议者们失去了非暴力运动的战略性优势，现在正面临着将旧的宗教和种族派系撕裂的流血冲突。即使也有着不少优势，他们也不能寄望在没有外力支援的情况下取得胜利。
●Paperless Tiger 794 Fans
The Syrian government is fighting against terrorism. The attack in Homs was a terrorist attack. Most of the victims were Alawites, shot at close range by terrorists. Government troops were shelling the terrorists. The press lied.
●Paperless Tiger（顶794次）
叙利亚政府是与恐怖主义作战。在Homs发生的袭击是一起恐怖袭击。大部分受难者是阿拉维派教徒，他们被恐怖分子近距离射杀。政府军队炮轰的是恐怖分子。媒体撒谎了。
●Pauline Jaing 285 Fans
How many dead and maimed in Libya, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq etc. did it take for you Washington lunatics to get out?The level of your rhetoric is cause for great concern.
I take it you are preparing for war with Russia and China, because I do not recall them speaking this way when you vetoed the application of the Palestinia¬n Authority for UNESCO?
How does one step back from this level of rhetoric, or are you all Neocon CHILDREN who think you can speak this way and get away with it?
●Pauline Jaing（顶285次）
已经有多少人在利比亚、阿富汗、巴基斯坦、伊拉克等地死去或是伤残了？这难道还不够让你们这些华盛顿的疯子们罢手吗？你们这种水平的说辞真是让人不关注都不行。
我猜想你们是在准备和俄罗斯以及中国开战，因为当你们对巴勒斯坦申请加入联合国教科文组织投反对票的时候，我没有提醒他们像这个样子说话。
你们少说这种话会死啊！还是你们所有新保守派的猴崽子们以为你们能信口开河而不付出任何代价？
●wom122 181 Fans
The Russians are fed up and I don't blame them. They watched their ally Serbia bombed by NATO in the 1990's and they endured US meddling in the affairs of Georgia, their very backyard not too long ago. They will not allow another resolution to be used in a way that justifes a Libya-style intervention in Syria.
●wom122（顶181次）
俄罗斯人已经受够了，我不想指责他们。90年代他们眼看着自己的同盟塞尔维亚被北约轰炸，又在不久前忍受了美国干预他们的后花园——格鲁吉亚共和国的事务。在叙利亚问题上，他们不会允许和用来为“干预利比亚”正名的决议相似的另一个决议得到通过。
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